Auburn offers to Mosley

June 15, 2009 – 10:13 am

Dakota Mosley of Little Rock Christian has been offere a scholarship by Auburn.

Mosley, who plays tight end/defensive end, was offered as an athlete.

    232 Responses to “Auburn offers to Mosley”

  1. A ploy to get Dyer

    By HawkHog on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:25am

  2. Really…

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:25am

  3. He’ll end up as a DL or OG. I bet this makes aubarn more appealing to dyer.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:29am

  4. A bit off topic: I would assume at this point, Bobby Petrino would love to have Dyer, but it isn’t on the top of his list. By Dyer demanding that his friends get scholarship offers or he would look elsewhere, that ultimatum / threat was taken seriously. If the young man doesn’t want to be a Razorback, let’s wish them all luck and look forward to the upcoming battles over the four to five years.

    By Northern Hog on Jun 15, 2009 @ 12:00pm

  5. I’ll bet when Dyer commits to the Hogs, Auburn will pull the offer to Mosley.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 12:11pm

  6. Auburn rivals article just released says Dyer’s visit was ‘perfect’ and he is done taking visits and will decide by summers end. He says Auburn is his #1 and has been for a while. Doesn’t sound good right now, but long time til NSD… just passing along info.

    By hoglock on Jun 15, 2009 @ 12:49pm

  7. I’ll acutally be shocked if Dyer doesn’t go to Auburn. Especially now. NEXT!

    By wps on Jun 15, 2009 @ 1:41pm

  8. Seems like an alternative motive to me.

    By Mike on Jun 15, 2009 @ 1:48pm

  9. I have a rough time believing anything out of Auburn. Do you really think that Dyer would say what the rest of the nation thinks in “Chizik, are you kidding me?” He is going to say exactly what the reporters want to hear just like the recruits do to our reporters. I think Auburn is making a back-door deal with Malzahn exaclty like they tried to do with Petrino years ago. Either two things will happen- Chizik falls on his face, Malzahn to the rescue or Chizik has success, Malzahn introduced as the new HC at a Pac-10 school. Coach-in-waiting at Auburn will be a very tough sell after what they did to Tuberville.

    By Daniel M. on Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:00pm

  10. I hope Dyer realizes that runningbacks that come from spread offenses have a tough time transitioning to the NFL. Look at Florida under Urban Meyer. They can’t produce an NFL runningback. They obviously offered Mosley to get Dyer. I would have done it too.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:02pm

  11. Many schools would offer Mosely to get Dyer. It just WILL NOT happen with our staff and I’m glad. They would have offered him before Uekman and Brad Hefley if he were an option. And that’s why I don’t see Dyer him coming here. Most of his comments make it seem as if he feels slighted by BP and staff. I would hate to see Dyer run over the Hogs for a few years though. This is just the way I see the whole situation.

    By wps on Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:12pm

  12. You all seem to have read my mind. When I posted really….

    I was thinking Dyer had a good visit to Auburn and they feel that this offer will seal the deal. I really hope that this is not the case. I truly believe AR is the place for Dyer and that he would be part of something very big and special. He should take a page from the Mallett and Green book if you ask me. They went away to what they thought were better programs and fits for them…and where are they now? And very happily I may add.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:47pm

  13. I guarantee you MRPRFCT they are pushing how much history Auburn has as a running back producing program. They are down playing the spread I am certain in his recruiting. They also are most likely pumping up how Malzahn likes to run the ball and giving examples of how the ball was run at Tulsa and Springdale as examples. They most likely are also telling him he would be part of a “wildcat” package also since everywhere Malzahn goes he runs it.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:50pm

  14. I wasn’t saying I agree with the article… because every top prospect that visits there says Auburn is their #1 right now, but there is no commitment. I still think Dyer stays home.

    By hoglock on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:02pm

  15. Blake, Do you have a rivals membership?

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:18pm

  16. what, besides wishful thinking hoglock, makes you think dyer will stay home?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:19pm

  17. They’re fishing for a five star using a one star as the bait, IMO.

    By Mike on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:29pm

  18. MRPRFCT,

    I think you can rule out Arkansas if he says something negative about the team/coaches.

    I don’t believe he has.

    By Mike on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:35pm

  19. In fact Dyer has said everything is really good at Arkansas. Except, some of the things he reads on the different blogs.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:55pm

  20. well MRPRFCT….

    Show me one article where he has not listed Ark in his top list of schools, the fact that he has done a couple of interviews on local TV that quoted him as being a strong Ark lean. Auburn writers on rivals are known for being homers, and every prospect that visits says that Auburn is their #1, but a commitment never comes out of it. I’ll believe it when I see it… but I think it was pretty well known that Dyer was going to take a few visits and then decide this summer. I don’t use wishful thinking.

    By hoglock on Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:59pm

  21. hoglock,

    Dyer did say in the article he was done with visits. But I believe both Dyer and Mosley will attend Arkansas seniors camp. If Mosley doesn’t attend, then he will probably blow any chance of getting an offer.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:07pm

  22. These are a few excerpts from that article on Rivals.

    “Auburn is No. 1,” Dyer said. “They’ve actually been No. 1 for a while. Coach Malzahn and Coach Luper are two coaches I trust and respect. They can make it happen for me.”

    In addition to Auburn, the Little Rock, Ark., native said he’s also considering Arkansas, Oklahoma and LSU. He has offers from just about every top D-I school in the country.

    Dyer said he’s excited about the opportunity of playing in Malzahn’s high-powered offense.

    “I think it fits perfect for me with my running style and how he could use me,” Dyer said. “It’s probably one of the best systems I could be under in college football.”

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:09pm

  23. Also,

    Dyer previously visited Auburn in March for a Junior Day.

    “I liked it then and I like it now,” he said. “I like it more now because I had that same feeling when I went down the second time.”

    As for a decision, Dyer plans to get it done in the next month or two.

    “I think I’m going to do it this summer,” he said.

    And it may be hard for any of Dyer’s other top schools jump ahead of the Tigers.

    “We’re not going to go anywhere else (this summer),” Dyer said. “Auburn is our last stop.”

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:10pm

  24. Ron I dont pay for the Rivals Membership but I read all the free Rivals, Scout, and ESPN recruiting articles. Usually on here those that do pay for those sites say the info with the rest of us or at least the main points so I dont see any reason to pay for it.

    I hope both Dyer and Mosley and many of the other top recruits we are after attend our Seniors Camp.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:12pm

  25. Auburn is his last stop?

    So is he not going to go to the AR seniors camp?

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:13pm

  26. Does anyone know how many recruits other SEC teams are looking to sign in Football?

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:14pm

  27. Hmm. I would imagine that Ole Miss will be a much smaller number with the over signing last year and also they loss of scholarships because of their bad ARP #.

    As far as the other schools I really am not sure. I do know that those uncommitted players out there that we are in a fight with Florida and LSU and Bama for I feel good about because those schools are getting up to 15 and 16 commits already. If those players look and see the other athletes or position players committed at their position they could very likely see that AR is the place for them. Not to mention when they visit and how they all like our coaching staff and recruiters. I feel we are in a strong position with many top recruits out there. As far as Dyer goes I am not going to hang this entire recruiting class on one player. If he goes to Auburn I wont like it dont get me wrong. But it wont be the first or last time a top recruit from AR went out of state. See Ziemba, Burns, Mallett, Green, Houston, and the list goes on. It is hard to think a running back would want to go out of AR though. When you are a running back at Arkansas you are the biggest celebrity in the state! You are the man.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:22pm

  28. Blake I sent you an email.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:22pm

  29. Everything you said, I agree with. Thanks for addressing my question. :P

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:25pm

  30. interesting….

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:26pm

  31. Heck Ole Miss probably if they honor the players they placed in Juco from last year and picked them all up wouldnt even be able to sign a player from HS this year. So you know they are going to tick some people off because they only have so many spots..

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:27pm

  32. Right now we have commits from two Big OL, One DT, One DE/LB, and one TE.

    I am ready to see which of the top RB and WR prospects we are after in the nation we get commits from first.

    Another thing on Dyer. Why would he want to play at the same school that the #1 and #2 RB recruits in the nation are leaning towards “supposedly” also? I hope that the article was just Auburn writers being Auburn writers and taking things out of context.

    Richard anyway you can get word on how Dyers top 3 stacks up right now? Maybe text him and see what he responds with?

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:30pm

  33. I see that based on that article and visit Rivals.com on Dyers profile lists Auburn as his leader with High interest, and AR LSU and OU all Medium interest behind them.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:54pm

  34. Since Dyer thinks so much of Auburn, Arkansas has some work to do. IMHO

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:00pm

  35. Like I have said before I want Dyer to be a Hawg I really do. Really. But if he likes Auburn more than AR what does that tell you?

    Most in state kids live and die for the Hogs and will commit when they get the offer. It is something they have always dreamed of and the team they have routed for their entire lives. Based on previous interviews Dyer has been treated great by our staff and they have done a very good job of showing how much they want him. What more can they do? If he does not want to be a Hog then he dosent want to be a Hog. I cant imagine it. But thats why it is his decision.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:15pm

  36. There are a ton of players out there that DO want to be Hogs.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:16pm

  37. Yes there is, but only one is named Dyer. With that said. I have become a huge Dyer fan. He is the best I have ever seen in Arkansas including (McFadden).
    It does seem that we have done a lot to try to get him. But I don’t want us to leave anything on the field.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:24pm

  38. I agree that we have done everything to land him and should continue to.

    He looks like a great player. I am not going to say better or worse than McFadden or Cobbs or Jones or any other previous backs. He definitely is great though. Hope he wants to be a Hog and ends up one. If he dosent best of luck to him but I wont even pretend to understand where he is coming from or to agree with an in state kid going to another SEC school. Wont even pretend….

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:45pm

  39. I would not be shocked if Micheal Dyer heads to auburn. While he is the best athlete in arkansas, and I think it’s important to land all the best talent from your home state when you don’t produce a huge amount of SEC caliber talent year after year, flat out I don’t think he fits the system. We can find a way to get him the ball but he’s not the big back that petrino wants. Plus he would be going into a vastly improved stable with Knile Davis(barring injury) and Ronnie Wingo(Barring Overhyping). That’s to much talent and not enough ball. We got a commit from Uekman and can’t see us offering another TE and I’m certain that Mosley and Dyer are going to be a package deal

    By LiqourstoreHOG on Jun 15, 2009 @ 6:09pm

  40. Blake, I was comparing Dyer to McFadden in H.S. only.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 15, 2009 @ 8:02pm

  41. Tom, I have to disagree with you. Dyer would be wonderful in Petrino’s system (think bigger stronger version of Michael Smith). Petrino prefers a big back, but I don’t think his system is necessarily made for big backs only. I do agree that Dyer and Mosley are a package deal and that’s where we aren’t recruiting as well as aubarn.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 8:49pm

  42. “I do agree that Dyer and Mosley are a package deal and that’s where we aren’t recruiting as well as aubarn.”

    So the Arkansas staff should essentially submit to extortion and give Moseley a schollie, if that’s what it takes to sign Dyer? How could the staff look anyone in the eye after that (much less maintain discipline and respect on the the team)?

    Let Auburn go down that road. If that’s truly what it takes to bring Dyer to Fayetteville, we don’t need him that badly.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:17pm

  43. It happens all the time.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:22pm

  44. Granted, however, we don’t have to be the ones doing it. Besides, the potential damage to what is beginning to shape up to be a very fine team (and program) aren’t worth it. Not even close.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:27pm

  45. no need to go down this road again. we have had this package deal conversation before. i think the staff is doing their best and if that is the deal breaker then so be it.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:28pm

  46. we all want him on campus… but he likes Auburn. what do u all think of Auburn?

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:30pm

  47. What do you mean, blake?

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:32pm

  48. Hold on. It’s not like Mosley is devoid of talent. He could grow into a good OL or DL. You never know. I believe if they are a package deal then do it. I remember a few years back Marc Winston was a big-time prospect at TE. Florida offered him. Anyway, he had a teammate that wasn’t highly thought of. Less than Mosley in fact. That teammate signed with Arkansas and became a 1st round draft pick. Winston transferred to UCA. Food for thought.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:36pm

  49. Auburn article on Dakota says that Ark is close to offering and one of the few schools recruiting him the hardest. We may not be after Dakota as a TE. He could grow into an OL. He does not expect to make a decision until after his SR season and after taking OV’s.

    By hoglock on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:45pm

  50. I don’t know. The first time we play Auburn and he rips us for 200 yds and 3 touchdowns, we might regret not offering Mosely if that is what would guarantee us landing Dyer. Besides, I seriously doubt we will get a much higher rated player at all with the schollie we dont give Mosely. We lose possibly the best back ever to come out of Arkansas. All because of a possible slight improvement in the O-lineman we will land if we don’t offer Mosely. I say O line because I believe that will be the position Mosely will end up playing in college.
    I’ll put it this way. Knowing what we know now, would anyone on here had offered a solid D1 prospect on McFadden’s HS team if that would land him and kept him from going to Auburn?

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:46pm

  51. Just stating this if indeed this is the deal maker or breaker, which I don’t know. Just sharing my opinion.

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:49pm

  52. The issue isn’t whether Mosley has talent. The issue is: do you (the coaching staff) allow a recruit to dictate to you who you sign? And the potential collateral damage to the team’s chemistry and the staff’s authority is just ignored? Again, simply not worth it.

    (Sorry, blake. ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:50pm

  53. On the McFadden scenerio, I would have offered the 2nd string punter to land him LOL!!!

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:52pm

  54. “Knowing what we know now, would anyone on here had offered a solid D1 prospect on McFadden’s HS team if that would land him and kept him from going to Auburn?”

    No. I don’t need to win that badly.

    “Auburn article on Dakota says that Ark is close to offering and one of the few schools recruiting him the hardest.”

    I thought the word was that Mosley was not being recruited by the Hogs?

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:54pm

  55. “On the McFadden scenerio, I would have offered the 2nd string punter to land him LOL!!!”

    ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:56pm

  56. So you would have told DMAC to take a hike? Really? Come on now….

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:58pm

  57. Hey, I respect what you are saying Hawgfan100! I just have a different opinion.

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:00pm

  58. I respect your opinion as well, SouthArk. However, I’d have to ask you the same question (just worded a bit differently): Would you mortgage your self-respect and the trust of the team, not to mention your authority over them, just to add some more ‘W’s to the ledger by signing DMac? Classic ’short-term gain for long term loss’ situation and that’s rarely ever a good idea.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:08pm

  59. Well, I understand the point your making, and it is a valid argument.. But I also think you are looking at it from a worst case perspective. I think that most players would understand that you are doing what it takes to make the team better and give it a better chance to win the championship. Not to mention keeping Dmac or whoever from coming back to haunt you by running roughshod all over you for the next 3 seasons. Not to mention the backlash from the fans that will almost certainly take place when you are getting ripped for 200+ yards by someone that you could have landed had you offered his teammate. The fanbase turning on Nutt was his demise as coach of the Razorbacks. And with job security in the SEC the way it is, wins are the bottom line. Yeah, I showed Dmac I didn’t need him!! Now I’m out of a job, and the program is in limbo!

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:21pm

  60. Not saying that win at any and all cost.I ceertainly believe in running a clean and respectable program at all costs.
    But there is nothing criminal or dishonorable about offering a solid player if thats what it takes to land a gamebreaker and keeping from having to play against him.

    By SOUTHARKHOGFAN on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:23pm

  61. Well, perhaps nothing criminal.

    ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:36pm

  62. dmac never considered any other programs. he was a hog the moment he was given the opportunity. like i said we had the pkg conversation already. we all seemed to agree before get them both. and it is not all that bad. for me this is just an example of the power and status top recruits are given these days. whats really going on in recruits minds i dont know but i wish all top in state recruits were like dmac. straight up. if ur a hog its clear. if u want to leave the state just say so. thats fine. we dont need mustain type drama anymore.

    By blake on Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:40pm

  63. All you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. We are definately interested in Mosley. Just because we havn’t offered yet dosn’t mean we are not talking to him. I think they both are thinking hard about coming to Fayetteville. Maybe Aubutn is trying to get an edge by offering Mosley first, but in the end both guys will go where they feel best suited. As for Auburn being a better fit for Dyer’s syle, I don’t see many NFL RBs coming out of that style. I just hope they both wait until after the auburn game, I have a feeling we’ll hang about 42 pt against them. Can’t wait! WPS!

    By Razorhoggg on Jun 15, 2009 @ 11:24pm

  64. “…like i said we had the pkg conversation already. we all seemed to agree before get them both. and it is not all that bad.”

    I missed that earlier discussion but I guess I’d have been one of the few (the only?) who would have thought it was ‘all that bad’.

    Ah well, not the first and certainly not the last time that’ll happen.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 15, 2009 @ 11:29pm

  65. Hawgfan I was against it also. In the end I agreed I wanted Dyer but that I didnt think it was worth it. I was way outnumbered. We had this conversation back when Dyer had the interview where he said that fellow in state AR athletes were not being recruited enough. It was a long time ago now. I am over the pkg thing for the most part. If our staff offers Mosley I dont believe it will be to get Dyer because they would have made that offer already if that was the case. I believe if they offer him now it is because they feel he is a good talent and they have a plan for him. I am more on the in state talent wanting to be Hogs or not wanting to be Hogs tip right now. I have said it a million times before but I just cant relate to the ones who have the opportunity to be Hogs and would rather go somewhere else. I would understand if maybe they did not fit the AR style of play but this current AR style of play is going to fit almost all the top in state prospects unless they are slow. Which the top prospects are not.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 10:13am

  66. So if the top high school scholar in Arkansas was considering Harvard would you be upset with him?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 11:59am

  67. If Arkansas offers Mosley now it would be because they think he could help and not because of Dyer? What’s changed between now and the end of football season last year? If they think he could help them I’d think they’d offered him by now. Maybe they thought they could get Dyer without offering Mosley, but now since malzahn has upped the ante, they may feel they have to offer Mosley.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:04pm

  68. If the top HS athlete in AR was picking an academic school obviously I would not be. That is sort of like Mack. I have already said I would understand him going to one of the other schools if he is most concerned with academics. Not to down play AR academics, but he could go anywhere with a 31 or 32 ACT score or whatever it is.

    But if the top Athlete is picking a school based primarily on the athletic program and where he wants to play ball. I would not understand it. I dont think I said upset anywhere. I just dont understand it. Were you born and raised in AR MRPRFCT?? If so… who did you dream of playing sports for? Who did you cheer for your entire life up until this very day? And who will you be for til the day you die? I am just saying I dont get it.. plain and simple. DMAC got it. Winston looked around but he got it and made the decision early. Berna got it. Luigs got it. Adams got it. Wright got it. All the highly touted Hogs on the team from in state and from the past all got it.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:05pm

  69. Mosley may or may not get an offer. If you look down the rivals 250 we have offers out to a few more TE and a bunch of OL and DL. So I dont know if we have an offer for Mosley or not. And I dont agree with you about if they offer him now. I dont think it has or will have anything to do with Dyer. Auburn making the offer certainly did. But the AR staff has slowly recruited him and been straight up with him all along he says. If they make him an offer its because they decided to not because it will help land Dyer.

    But if Auburn does pull them I hope for their sake they end up better than the last two top prospects Auburn pulled from AR in Ziemba and Burns. They havnt had alot of fun losing games over there I dont think.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:09pm

  70. Malzahn will crash and burn my friend. Crash and burn. If last years assistant is any indication he will not be given time. He may have this entire season to get it done…or he may have half this season. If they finish in the bottom two of the SEC West which I expect they will expect to see him getting alot of heat and sweating bullets..

    Mosley already said in numerous interviews the staff wanted to first see him in person. And also they want him to lower his 40 time. Straight up. So if he has been working hard and is getting stronger and faster and doing what they asked of him he could possibly be earning the scholarship he is working for.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:18pm

  71. It appears that Moseley has had conversation with the UofA staff. He has been told.”If you want to play TE for us you have to 1…, 2…, 3…. Apparently he has not achieved these requirements, yet. Of maybe he has been told that we will not recruit him as a TE, Rather we would like him to become an OT.

    I would love for both young men to be a part of the Razorbacks. But as a coach I would not submit to any kind of deal making.

    By bigfoot on Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:52pm

  72. What’s the difference between athletics and academics? Arkansas isn’t the best academic school and you understand why someone would choose elsewhere based on academics. So why can’t you apply that to athletics?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 1:32pm

  73. Maybe they are holding out for limo rides…

    By WPSGHG on Jun 16, 2009 @ 1:54pm

  74. If they are about academics there are clearly higher institutions of learning. In athletics there are programs more traditionally powerhouses. Obviously. But our program is on the rise and as a homegrown young man being part of that means something. You are not answering a single question just asking more back. What does playing at Auburn have as an advantage over playing for the Razorbacks?

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 2:21pm

  75. Hefley just committing may now also add to this discussion. Now with Hefley and Uekman both able to play numerous positions while also fitting the TE spot very well what will that mean for Mosley?

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 2:23pm

  76. Believe it or not, Auburn has more tradition than Arkansas and is very close to Atlanta.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 2:58pm

  77. That’s being hypocritical. Ueckman projects as a TE/HB and Hefley projects as a TE/DE. I believe he’s too slow to be a LB. With that said I believe Mosley projects more as an OL or DL.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 3:03pm

  78. If anything I see Mosley as an OG. He’s too slow for a DE.

    By Mike on Jun 16, 2009 @ 3:09pm

  79. Hefley has times that say 4.8 and then he has times that say 4.6 and then there are other sites that say 4.9

    He is described as quick though. Not slow. Uhhm.

    We all know that Auburn has tradition. But what have they done lately? We have been more competitive in the West lately than they have. So having tradition and being close to Atlanta means they are better than Arkansas? Interesting. You really have a funny way of being a Hog fan there MR. Lets see what else Auburn has going for them. They have a new coaching staff..again. They have players that have not performed well under previous coaching staffs that were far more experienced and successful as coaches might I add. They have an administration and boosters that will run those new coaches out just as fast they did some of the more recent assistants. So Auburn looks like a great place to go if you want to be unsure if you will have the same coaches in your 3 or 4 years on campus. Anything I missed?

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 3:28pm

  80. Oh yeah… Auburn also is the 2nd best team in their state. They may have a good rivalry but they will never rival Bama for tradition or success.

    Arkansas you are the be all end all of sports figures in the state. Especially when you are a homegrown talent. Fans practically worship the players, and see them as the biggest stars in the state.

    I can keep going..

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 3:31pm

  81. I havnt said anything bad about the players that want to leave the state just that I dont get it. You apparently do however you seem to have trouble expressing it in any type of clear form.

    If they leave the state I always wish them the best, unless they are going to another SEC team especially not if in the same division. Best of luck until we see you I guess you could say. And then hope we stomp you in the ground. Sound about right? Same goes for ex coaches and ex assistants. Hope we pound them and if we dont I wont be happy about it.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 3:40pm

  82. Oh wow Blake way to compliment HDN there. Sweet.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:02pm

  83. I have a funny way of showing that I’m a Hog fan? Why? Because i’m objective and not a homer?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:15pm

  84. Compliment HDN? You have some type of issue you really do. I didnt mention him anywhere. Objective…. good one. I like how you never respond to anything on subject or directly written, but instead what you feel is implied. I am a direct person. What I say is what I am talking about. Nothing else. I think in reading over all my posts what I am saying is pretty direct so I have concerns when you don’t seem to see that or feel you need to say I am implying anything more than what I have said.

    And you are a homer of yourself and your own opinions. I thought you were anti name calling Mr? You do know calling someone a homer is name calling. Regardless I could care less. I am a Razorback through and through. So thank you.

    And clearly your arguments for Ole Miss and now Auburn are what I was making a point of being funny ways of showing your Hog fan in you. Are you going to defend Bama or TN in a recruiting battle next?

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:32pm

  85. Why dont you just make a list for us all about all the great things the opposing SEC schools have to offer and why a recruit would rather go there than AR. That would be Super Fantastic of you!

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:34pm

  86. And me saying we were more competitive than Auburn is not a compliment to your man crush. It is more a dis on Auburn and how bad they have been lately.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:40pm

  87. Blake, you cant argue with a person who had an IQ 121 in the 8th grade.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:45pm

  88. “Believe it or not, Auburn has more tradition than Arkansas…”

    I don’t (believe it, that is…) but will listen to your argument. what is this based on?

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:49pm

  89. I didn’t call you a homer, Blake. You said we’ve been more competitive in the SEC lately than aubarn has. You asked what’s aubarn have to offer and I told you they have more tradition and they’re close to Atlanta. How am I not answering you?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:51pm

  90. That’s based on being in the SEC longer and having more SEC championships. Need more or are you ready to agree?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:53pm

  91. You rock, Ron!

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:55pm

  92. btw it’s 131 in the 3rd grade. Write that down for future reference.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:57pm

  93. My question MRPRFCT:

    How does it feel to have peaked before puberty ?

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 4:58pm

  94. my question was going to be how did the 3rd grade graduation go last week?

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:00pm

  95. LOL

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:06pm

  96. So tell us, what happened to ya MRPRFCT ?

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:09pm

  97. Oh, I need more MRP. Like some examples that fit more with the definition of tradition. Being a part of a major conference might be one. In that case, Arkansas has been affiliated with a major conference since 1915; Auburn since 1922 (and that’s being generous. Auburn belonged to something called the Southern Conference from 1922-1932, not sure that would qualify as a ‘major conference’).

    You cited SEC Championships. That’s not a fair comparison since Arkansas has been in the league only 16 years or so. How about championship years overall? In that case, I’m more than satisfied with Arkansas’ 16 championship years as compared to Auburn’s 12.

    What else do you have?

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:20pm

  98. I think hes got Bo Knows Football. Not sure what else he has..

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:21pm

  99. Teenagers don’t care about us beating up on baylor, smu, tcu, and houston. Trust me I know I have teenager at home it’s all about what you’ve done in the SEC.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:33pm

  100. You may not want to throw the word tradition around then if the teenagers dont care.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:35pm

  101. In that case, I imagine Darren does too. ;^) But as far as tradition goes…not sure a case could be made for more star players at either university. Auburn has had a football team slightly longer than Arkansas (three years), however, that’s just not that big a difference.

    Ah well, will be gone for about an hour. Keep my seat warm…

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:37pm

  102. Touche’

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:38pm

  103. Hawgfan100, We’ll leave the light on for ya

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:40pm

  104. I’m so ready for football season.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 5:44pm

  105. According to Scouts Profile on Hefley he runs a 4′6 40 at 6′-4″ 251 lbs and plays MLB as well as TE. He must be pretty athletic ! Does anyone know if he plays Basketball too?

    http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=4096120

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 6:08pm

  106. I read that but like Blake says there are so many conflicting reports about his 40 time. It doesn’t matter though. I trust CBPs evaluation.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 6:11pm

  107. I’d say Arkansas has quite a bit of tradition since the early ’60s. I believe Texas and Arkansas were the juggernauts of the old SWC, just as OU and Nebraska’s traditions were dominant in the old Big 8 conference.
    When Bo built his reputation at AU, it took them to another level, but he didn’t do it in the spread offense.
    I have a lot of respect for Gus Malzhan and his offensive philosophy, but preparing Micheal Dyer for the next level won’t be best achieved in a spread offense.
    I hope he realizes this before he takes commiting to Auburn too seriously.
    Personally, I think it’s a bad move.
    NFL scouts won’t be looking that closely at RB prospects running out of a spread offense, because there certainly won’t be any of those ran in the NFL.

    By GonzoHog on Jun 16, 2009 @ 6:14pm

  108. That’s what I’m saying, Gonzo.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 6:19pm

  109. I appreciate the light, guys. Unfortunately, I’m being drafted back into a project I was supposed to be exempt from…:^/ I’ll check back later this evening (unless its just too late…) and see what’s shakin’.

    So let me see if I have this right, MRP: Auburn has more tradition than Arkansas and therefore will be able to get him to commit but they won’t be able to properly prepare him for the NFL because they’ll run the spread? That’s what I was supposed to take away from that comment on Auburn having more tradition than Arkansas?

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:08pm

  110. ‘Him’ = Dyer.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:08pm

  111. :P

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:11pm

  112. Hawgfan100,

    You’ll have to excuse MRPRFCT. He tends to grab for both ends of the straw from time to time.

    By GonzoHog on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:22pm

  113. I never said aubarn was going to sign dyer. Blake asked what could draw a recruit to aubarn over arkansas. Guys, if you’re going to qoute me or use my words please be accurate.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:28pm

  114. Besides what does one have to do with the other?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 7:35pm

  115. I said I dont understand why top in state players would want to leave when they are wanted badly. Dyer is wanted by the Razorbacks so badly yet he is favoring Auburn by all reports. I said I dont understand it. From a scheme perspective I dont. And from just about every angle I dont understand it. More power to him if that is his final choice. I wont be a fan anymore, he could at least go to the SEC East if he dosent want to be a Hog. I firmly stand that I do want the Hogs to land him though. I wish he would commit soon actually. That could get this little roll in recruiting we are on really rolling.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 8:17pm

  116. In some folks attempt to rebuke me, the cheering crowd looks silly when they laugh at the illogical assumption.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 8:19pm

  117. I asked the question what is better about Auburn than Arkansas that would have him leaning there? That opened the can of worms I guess. But I really wonder what it is. Is it the coaches? The offense? The location? I didnt quite get the answers I was looking for but we will just have to wait and cross our fingers I guess.

    By blake on Jun 16, 2009 @ 8:19pm

  118. I also stop pulling for kids that go elsewhere when an Arkansas offer is on the table. I do, however, pull for them when they come back home and play for the Hogs (Mallett, Green)

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 16, 2009 @ 8:21pm

  119. Before Dyer commits to Auburn, which he will, he may want to ask Kodi Burns about how things have gone for him since he has been there. Good Luck. See if you get half the support that you would get at Arkansas. Auburn is not even the number one college in Alabama. Get used to being 2nd place.

    By Ya Dig on Jun 16, 2009 @ 11:19pm

  120. yeah mrp i mentioned that earlier. seems the most recent top players to leave have come back. ya dig what makes u certain he will commit to auburn? not doubting u just curious

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:01am

  121. “In some folks attempt to rebuke me, the cheering crowd looks silly when they laugh at the illogical assumption.”

    If this was addressed to me, I haven’t even tried to rebuke you, MRP. Successfully rebut you, yes. Rebuke, no.

    If you find my question illogical, look closer to home. I was merely attempting to make certain your comments were going where they seemed to be going. Saves me from making all kinds of assumptions, don’t you know.

    Speaking of such, we are finished with the ‘lack of Arkansas tradition’ thread, aren’t we? Even you should be able to agree that Arkansas takes a back seat to few programs where tradition is concerned.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:35am

  122. I don’t see where tradition and the spread offense have anything to do with one another, yet you tried to tie them together.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 4:33am

  123. The Tigers played the first football game in the Deep South in 1892,[1] with the program’s first bowl appearance coming the 1936 season in the sixth Bacardi Bowl played in Havana, Cuba. As of 2007, AU Football has had 77 winning seasons, 34 bowl appearances, twenty-four 9+ win seasons, eleven undefeated seasons and ten conference championships. Auburn has played in the Southeastern Conference since its inception in 1933 and have won six SEC Conference Championships, and since the divisional realignment of the conference in 1992, six Western Division championships[2] and three trips to the SEC Championship game.

    The College Football Research Center lists Auburn as the 14th best college football program in history,[3] with eight Auburn squads listed in Billingsley’s Top 200 Teams of All Time (1869-2006).[4] The Associated Press poll statistics show Auburn with the 11th best national record of being ranked in the final AP Poll[5] and 13th overall (ranked 470 times out of 970 polls since the poll began in 1936), with an average ranking of 11.11.[6] Since the Coaches Poll first released a final poll in 1950, Auburn has 33 seasons where the team finished in the top 20 in both the AP and Coaches Polls.[7]

    Auburn has the 13th most wins in D-1A college football.[8] In terms of winning percentage, Auburn ranks as the 8th most successful team in the past 25 years with a 71.7% win rate (214–83–5)[9] and 12th over the last 50 years with 68.4% (386–176–10).[10] Of the 93 current I-A football programs that been active since Auburn first fielded a team 116 years ago, Auburn ranks 13th in winning percentage over that period.[11]

    Two Auburn players, Pat Sullivan in 1971 and Bo Jackson in 1985, have won the Heisman Trophy. The Trophy’s namesake, John Heisman, coached at Auburn from 1895 until 1899. Auburn is the only school where Heisman coached (among others, Georgia Tech and Clemson) that has produced a Heisman Trophy winner.

    There have been a total of eight Auburn teams that have been awarded some form of “National Champions” title.

    Auburn’s rivalry with Alabama is termed the “Iron Bowl”. The first meeting came in 1893, but the teams only played 15 times before the series was suspended in 1907. In 1948, the two schools finally agreed to renew the series, with the games to be played at the neutral Legion Field in Birmingham, where the game was played every year from 1948 through 1988. In 1989, Auburn hosted the first on-campus meeting, after which the series became a “home and home,” with Auburn’s home games being played in Auburn (with the exception of the 1991 game, which was played at Legion Field), and Alabama’s home games being played at Legion Field until 2000, when Alabama moved their home games to Tuscaloosa. Alabama holds the all-time edge in the series at 39–33–1, although Auburn leads 14-11 over the last quarter century.

    Georgia and Auburn compete in “The Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry”, dating back to February 20, 1892. That first meeting was the first ever Auburn football game, a 10-0 win for the Tigers. The two teams met at Piedmont Park in Atlanta, Georgia and the annual matchup continued to be held there until 1903. It was played in Columbus, Georgia, from 1916 to 1958, except in 1929 and 1949, when the game was played in Athens, Georgia. In 1959, the series became an on-campus series. Auburn holds a 53–50–8 lead in the series.

    Is that enough for you hawgfan100?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 5:53am

  124. MrPerfey… Had to pull an all nighter huh!!

    By Piglett on Jun 17, 2009 @ 8:48am

  125. LOL no I just wake up extremely early.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 9:00am

  126. “I don’t see where tradition and the spread offense have anything to do with one another, yet you tried to tie them together.”

    Actually trying to make sense out of a couple of your comments. Seemed like you were trying to connect them but it didn’t work for me, hence my question.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 9:35am

  127. Ok. Let me explain myself. I believe the spread offense hurts the development of QBs and RBs. That’s why I think malzahn’s offense is bad for Dyer. Blake asked why would a recruit choose aubarn over Arkansas and I said aubarn has more tradition and is close to Atlanta. If I were recruited by the UA I would jump at the scholarship immediately, but that’s me. I was just being objective when answering Blake.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 9:42am

  128. “Is that enough for you hawgfan100?”

    While I applaud you on your effort and am impressed by your research (not to mention Auburn’s accomplishments); you still have failed to show how this proves your thesis: Auburn has more (football) tradition than Arkansas.

    Back to the sweatshop, young man! ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:04am

  129. “Ok. Let me explain myself.”

    Cool. I believe I get what you were aiming for here. And I need to remember that it can be difficult to keep things cogent when one finds themselves in the position you do oftentimes (i.e. having to respond to multiple posters on the same or related threads at nearly the same time).

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:08am

  130. I think I’ve proven myself and have won yet another recruiting blog debate. This makes my record 101-0. Thanks for participating.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:10am

  131. Not so fast, buckaroo Mere numbers (and not even completely good numbers at that) will not suffice to win you the debate. Neither will your mere insistence that you won grant you the victory (what are you, twelve years old?). Tradition relies on more, MUCH more and you have yet to prove your point.

    However, I will agree to put it up to a vote of the forum based on their estimation of the validity of your argument. Feel lucky? ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:22am

  132. A win? No sir.

    Its good you believe in yourself though.

    1. you still have not concluded how Auburn’s tradition is greater than AR. Numbers and records pasted from Wikipedia dont do that for you.

    1a. You agreed that Arkansas has been more or just as relevant as Auburn in recent years.

    2. You agreed that Auburn is not a better fit for Dyer than Arkansas so when agreeing I am not sure how that could ever be a win.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:24am

  133. Clarification: the ‘forum’ will consist only of those who post in this blog on a regular basis. No ballot stuffing allowed! ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:25am

  134. lol

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:26am

  135. looks like blake is first in the queue! And with a resounding vote of ‘no’! Thanks, blake. ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:31am

  136. Auburn is like Ok State, except worse. They have one booster that has THE bucks, and he contributes mightily. For that it seems that he gets to run the football program. He decides who the coaches are, etc. I can remember his bame, maybe someone else can. This is sort of the situation that Ok state has.

    By bigfoot on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:33am

  137. Except everyone knows Ok St.’s booster. ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 10:44am

  138. LOL I certainly hope you’re not counting the male cheerleaders of the blog as constituents. The debate is which school has more tradition not which is a better fit for Dyer. Get it right or you’ll always be confused, lil fella. Auburn is a charter member of the SEC. We are not. Auburn has the Iron Bowl. We have The Battle for the Boot. Auburn has “The oldest rivalry in the south”. We have “we used to beat texass once every 5 years, but we don’t play them anymore!”. Auburn has Toomer’s corner. We have….????? Auburn has 2 Heisman trophy winners. We don’t have any. Ok. There. End of discussion. I win. Again.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:01am

  139. The aubarn booster bigfoot is referring to is Bobby Lowder.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:03am

  140. Blake doesn’t count anyway. He complains about Arkansas kids leaving the state yet he’s in Colorado. Seems hypocritical to me.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:17am

  141. Wow that was a bunch of garbage spewed out in a hurry there.

    I still dont see where your statements and opinions show Auburn having more tradition than Arkansas.

    I also think this discussion is clearly about Dyer. Why else did we start talking about Auburn and AR athletes going there? Man you missed something or something is missing. One of the two.

    And as far as me living in CO. What does that have to do with the Razorbacks. The athletes going and playing somewhere else when they have an offer from the Hogs was the discussion not where do they go after they play for the Hogs 10 years later. You like that. I count way more than you MRPRFCT trust me.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:32am

  142. You seem to think whatever your last point was (no matter how off point or topic it is, which is how it got to where the debate is I might add) is the topic of the argument.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:34am

  143. You count what, Blake?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:35am

  144. I win.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:36am

  145. That was in response to you saying Blake doesn’t count anyways.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:37am

  146. You lose. I think the only thing you win was the end of the year 3rd grade spelling bee a few weeks ago.

    CONGRATS!

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:37am

  147. Wow Blake the same joke two days in a row. How stale. LOL but what you’re saying is you continously argue (and lose) to a 3rd grader. Bwahahahaha I win again. I’m just messing with you, Blake. I dont mean anything by it. Go Hogs!!!!!

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:44am

  148. “Auburn is a charter member of the SEC. We are not.”

    Again, can’t hold this against Arkansas. Situation out of our control.

    “Auburn has the Iron Bowl. We have The Battle for the Boot.”

    Yep. And just ask a non-partisan college football fan which of those two games they remember the last two years. The Battle for the Boot should be just as exciting this year while the Iron Bowl will be just as boring. The BftB will be more relevant also.

    “Auburn has “The oldest rivalry in the south”. We have “we used to beat texass once every 5 years, but we don’t play them anymore!”.”

    We, like many teams in the SEC, are busy building ‘rivalries’ with many of the teams on our schedule. Even in the old SWC, Texas wasn’t the power team in the conference right off the bat, TCU was and we had many knock down/drag outs with them until the dynamics shifted. Texas for us, like Bama for Auburn, is only the most well known rivalry. We’re still molding our ‘team to beat every year’ but I’m leaning towards Ol Piss myself (which is a continuatrion of a very heated rivalry in its own right).

    “Auburn has Toomer’s corner. We have….?????”

    The most distinctive cheer in all college sports. The most distinctive mascot in all college sports. You will find other birds and tigers (Two mascots?! How dopey is that?) but no other Razorbacks. Also, and I may be going too far out on a limb here but, did Arkansas not usher in the craze of wearing your team’s mascot as a ‘lid’? If so then…;^)

    “Auburn has 2 Heisman trophy winners. We don’t have any.”

    While this is no measure of ‘tradition’ I’ll speak to it anyway. I’m glad we don’t have an Heisman winners in our history. It took the exceedingly poor treatment of Dmac to open my eyes to just what that award is: nothing more than a mere popularity contest akin to Miss America.

    “Ok. There. End of discussion. I win. Again.’

    Not so fast there, buckaroo. (Btw, your obsessive premature assumption of victory reminds me of another premature condition…;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 11:50am

  149. Are we debating tradition or excitement? I could swear it’s tradition so your point about the last 2 Boot games is stupid. Regardless of your opinion about the Heisman, it’s still prestigious and steeped in tradition. Yes, we have the Hog Call and yes it’s better than aubarn’s 2 mascot situation. I never understood yelling “war eagle” when your mascot is a tiger. Actually, you can blame us for being new members in the SEC. We had a conference and left. Was it a brilliant move? Yes, but when we moved we left our tradition (rivalries, conference championships, etc) with the SWC. It’s ok that we aren’t the most tradition rich program in college football. So what. Doesn’t mean we can’t be proud to be Razorbacks.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:05pm

  150. btw I always win so it’s never a premature celebration.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:07pm

  151. “Are we debating tradition or excitement? I could swear it’s tradition so your point about the last 2 Boot games is stupid.”

    Stupid? Perhaps…However, your argument the Iron Bowl is somehow ‘better’ (for lack of a better word) than the BftB must rest on something. If not excitement and/or relevance, then what? Longevity? Not when you’re comparing two teams which aren’t legitimately comparable for that factor. So what is it?

    “Regardless of your opinion about the Heisman, it’s still prestigious and steeped in tradition.’

    Not saying the Trophy isn’t steeped in tradition (however, I do believe its prestige and relevance are being called into question more and more). I am saying that no program can claim ‘winning Heisman Trophies’ as a tradition of the program.

    If I blame anyone for the move from the SWC, I blame all those schools whose illegal and trashy behavior caused the conference to be a national laughingstock/embarrassment. And you’re wrong: you never leave your history behind; it’s always there. The 2009 Razorbacks will have their history to draw upon just like the 1909 Arkansas Cardinals did. Blake in CO and myself in GA aren’t less ardent fans because we no longer reside in the state. We didn’t leave our past behind because we moved. Neither did Arkansas.

    “It’s ok that we aren’t the most tradition rich program in college football. So what. Doesn’t mean we can’t be proud to be Razorbacks.”

    I completely agree with both statements. I also remain completely unconvinced we need to take a back seat to Auburn in anything, much less tradition. ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:56pm

  152. “btw I always win so it’s never a premature celebration.”

    Been premature on this topic all day…8^P

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:57pm

  153. Oh, and let’s not forget “Running through the ‘A’”
    That’s a sweet tradition that seems to impress more than a few recruits.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 12:58pm

  154. Hey speaking of tradition. Does anyone know when ESPN College Football Live is going to be doing Arkansas on their 50 states tour? I dont want to miss it. I have been recording them recently so I dont miss it.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:12pm

  155. Your confusing history with tradition. aubarn plays bama in the iron bowl every year. That’s tradition. We no longer play texass schools anymore (on a year to year basis). That’s our past. That’s no longer tradition. Let’s say you got married and you and your wife would go down to Hot Springs every year for your anniversary. You get divorced and marry another woman. Going to Hot Springs was a tradition, but you don’t do it anymore so it’s your past. Now, you travel the world for your anniversary.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:16pm

  156. Nope but I’d be interested in that info as well.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:16pm

  157. Sorry I wasn’t more eloquent with that last post. I wrote that with a 10 minute break in the middle there. I hope you get my point.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:18pm

  158. One thing that will help our rivalries is if we stop rooting for our rivals. I don’t get it. “Florida, you just destroyed us, but I’m hoping you win the national championship.”. First of all, Hog fans cheering for florida, bama, or whomever doesn’t help them win so why pull for them? We never pulled for texass because we HATED them and they were our rival. We don’t hate other SEC teams and that’s why we don’t have a true SEC rival. You’ll never see the Red Sox pull for the Yankees because “it makes the AL look better”. I want a rivalry like that. And that’s why I NEVER pull for SEC teams.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:24pm

  159. MRP-

    But you still celebrate your anniversary. You may vary a detail of the tradition (like changing rivals) but the tradition (playing rivalry games) is the same past or present.

    History is an integral part of tradition: traditions are something “handed down” or “long established”. You don’t have either without a past for relevance and reference.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:28pm

  160. I dont pull for other SEC teams to win. I hate all the teams we play. Many people do that now to make it look like we are part of the SEC so we are part of that greatness. BLAH BLAH BLAH. I hate Bama, I hate LSU, I hate Ole Miss, I hate Auburn, I hate TN, I hate SC, I hate Kentucky, I hate Florida, I hate Georgia, I hate Vanderbilt, I hate Miss State.

    The only SEC team I like is the Hogs! The rest are our competition and I hope they get beat when we play them. Now if they play a Texas or Texas A&M I am sorry but my bitter hatred for all things Texas takes over and I hope they win.

    I know what you are talking about thought. To many AR fans are all SEC SEC SEC. Not me.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:29pm

  161. Now wait a minute MR P. You rout for Ole Miss and have said so. Are you saying you are going to stop with all that? If not then you are just being hypocritical.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:30pm

  162. I’ve never said I root for ole miss. I still respect HDN for bringing life back into our program, but he’s the enemy now.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:34pm

  163. Interesting. Do you kiss the enemy?

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:35pm

  164. LMAO!

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:36pm

  165. hawgfan100, you don’t celebrate that first wife’s anniversary anymore if you wanna stayed married to that second wife. LOL

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:36pm

  166. I agree we need a rival where some real dislike can get going. That will come (I really don’t like Alabama but I don’t think the Razorback Nation is quite there with me yet ;^).

    However, I live entirely too close to ACC land and their partisans
    enjoy comparing the two conferences more than individual teams so having a Florida or LSU win National Titles really helps in those debates. Therefore I root for SEC teams in general more than I used to root for SWC teams in general. Of course this could change.

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:37pm

  167. Or is it Sleeping with the enemy?

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:38pm

  168. “hawgfan100, you don’t celebrate that first wife’s anniversary anymore if you wanna stayed married to that second wife. LOL”

    You know, on this point, you’re completely correct! ;^)

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:39pm

  169. I think our relative lack of major success in the SEC. Although we have won the west and made some noise, but not compared to what we accomplished in football in the SWC is why so many Arkansas fans root SEC. Because they feel like they have nothing else to root for.

    I think BP is going to give us something to cheer about and something to talk about with these Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10,etc etc fans soon enough. We had the #2 passing game in the SEC last year with the worst OL and Dick as QB. This year with the OL a year into the scheme, Mallett or Wilson at QB, and some new depth on the OL with Oden, Berna, Bailey, and whoever else helps out I think we will be #1 passing attack in the SEC. Of course that has to play itself out on the field but I see it happening.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:41pm

  170. Blake, I wouldn’t sleep with HDN, but 1 of his daughters ain’t bad looking. That was probably really wrong.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:43pm

  171. Now on the Bama v Auburn and Arkansas v LSU. If over then next one or two years we continue to have the games we have been having with them I think it could easily be argued that it has been one of the best rivalries of recent years and will have gained some tradition and history.

    Arkansas and Ole Miss was already a becoming a bit of a Rivalry. Now with Nutt there it is almost an instant rivalry in the medias and fans eyes.

    I think these two have our best chance of becoming dubbed our rivalry games. Bama I also hate along with all the other SEC teams. But I think Bama has to many original SEC rivals to add us to the list. But it could happen.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:44pm

  172. Thats was totally wrong. I am totally telling your man crush you just said that about his daughter.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:45pm

  173. Don’t forget the Broyels award….

    You guys should join the ESPN SEC blog. It is a lot more fun to argue with SEC rivals than fellow Hog fans.

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:48pm

  174. Wikipedia certainly has an opinion about who Arkansas considers a rival…take a look. It is interesting to see what those outside the Hog Nation perceive.

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:52pm

  175. These are the SEC teams I hate in order from most to least:

    1. lsu drunk cajuns
    2. bama. arrogant jerks. Satan is the perfect coach for them
    3. tenn. capital T and the color orange
    4. flor. it’s florida. Nuff said
    5. aubarn. moving up as they continue to offer OUR kids
    6. usc. they think they’re better than what they really are
    7. msu. ugly town, ugly colors, ugly team
    8. kent. we should never lose to them
    9. ole miss. their women are smoking
    10. vandy. they try hard
    11. georgia. richt is a great man

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:53pm

  176. MR P half the Ole Miss Women are girls from Private Schools in Little Rock. And they are not that hot when you have had half of them…

    I agree the ESPN Blog and CBS Sportsline are much more fun to argue with other SEC and Conference fans other than ourselves. But our ESPN and Sportsline page are so dead with people never talking anymore it is boring.

    I post on both though. Actively.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:56pm

  177. I don’t have man crushes, but if I were to have one it would be Richt at Georgia. Remember back when Michael Grant couldn’t get into uga because of an incident when he was in high school? Richt called HDN and told him about Grant. Not to mention him adopting those special needs kids in the Ukraine.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 1:57pm

  178. I hate Richt and UGA. Not because he is not a good person. I am sure he is. But because he is the coach of UGA.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:01pm

  179. Blake,

    What name do you post under…

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:02pm

  180. The Obama Deception on YouTube

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:06pm

  181. 1. Tenn Vols. Most arrogant fans ever! and now they have Kiffen as coach that just wraps that up.
    2. LSU because of their rude fans. I know a bunch of good ones but this is a classic example of a few ruining it for the rest.
    3. Bama because they are bama and their fans act privlaledged and arrogant.
    4. Ole Miss because their fans have quickly become unrealistic and act as though they are on the same level as AR after one season. They SUCK!
    5. Auburn I just have never liked. No real reason.
    6. Georgia fans are also arrogant.
    7. msu. No More Freaking COW BELL!!
    8. Kent in football drops down the list. In BB they are my #1 though. Freakin delusional fans.
    9. Florida is so far away and we really dont have much going on with them. I may hate them more if we did.
    10. Vandy is not bad. They really have nothing to say.
    11. SC was cool when they had Holtz and we have had some good games with them and their fans were always actually pretty cool. So nothing much against them. I do think Spurrier used to be a jerk but he hasnt had much to pump himself up on in awhile.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:08pm

  182. BornHogWild

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:09pm

  183. “Remember back when Michael Grant couldn’t get into uga…”

    Yes I do and that was a great thing for Richt to do. We definitely need to whup Georgia’s ass this year but I have nothing personal against Richt. Now Satan on the other hand…

    By Hawgfan100 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:10pm

  184. Whew ! This is a terrible waste of resources.
    MR P, I have given up on you ! I used to think you would eventually settle down and try to get along. That was a waste of time.
    Blake is right in the way he deals with you. So is Gonzohog.
    As for being outside the state of Arkansas and being upset about instate kids leaving. I am disappointed about that! Do I have that right?
    Your damn right I do !
    The only thing you have won here is being the person who says “I win” the most.
    I dont post here much anymore because you have taken the enjoyment out of it. I’m sure you are thinking “I won again”
    My only question to you is: What did you really win?

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:10pm

  185. Blake,

    That is your CBS name right? or both?

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:11pm

  186. Whats up Ron. How hot is it supposed to be over there today?

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:12pm

  187. Both

    CBS is where I have posted more though. But I post on both alot.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:12pm

  188. Hey Ron, how’s it going?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:16pm

  189. I remember seeing your post on CBS. Your avitar are the ARK flags in color on a black and white background right?

    CBS, I post Razorfan43
    ESPN, USAHOG43

    I have been spending more time on the ESPN blog lately due to the lack of Hog posters. someones gotta do it!

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:16pm

  190. Oh yeah thats me. I havnt put up an avatar on ESPN just the generic dude with a BBall. But on CBS I am the flag with the B&W background.

    I have seen you on both. We have been having to really go at it with those Ole Miss fans on ESPN lately havnt we. I dont get were they get this superiority complex all of a sudden.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:18pm

  191. Hey My bad I thought I fogot I dont use the same name on ESPN.

    On ESPN I am BoutDemHogs

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:25pm

  192. Hey guys, Years ago my best friend who was from Ky said to me the day after Sutton left Ark for Ky. ” Were gonna win a National Championship now that we have a good coach!”
    I say this because now Ole Miss fans are full of themselves just like Ky was then. Hence, the Superiority complex. I guess we all feel good when we start over.

    ps. I can hear Ky saying that again. lol

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:25pm

  193. I know! newport doug….all I can say is wow.

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:25pm

  194. What exactly offended you, Ron? My argument that’s it’s hypocritical to expect Arkansas athletes to attend the UA, but not expect it of ourselves? Stay in Arkansas and make it strong! If that offended you I apologize, but I still stand by that. If it’s something else then let me know and I’ll clarify my point.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:26pm

  195. DJ is my avitar for CBS and the Razorback at midfield is mine for ESPN…

    By WPSGHG on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:27pm

  196. Ky will be on probation soon enough. Calipari may be gone, but his stench is still in Memphis.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:29pm

  197. Good comments Ron about what MRP has really won. Nothing.

    By fb71 on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:33pm

  198. LOL thank you for your insightful contribution.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:35pm

  199. Ron I almost feel that way as an AR fan though. Now we have a coach!! And we have a staff! And we have a program building. I feel like this program is being built solidly by BP and that withing a short period of time we will see this program strong and reloading and not rebuilding. I dont think we will have the inconsistent up and down years.

    I have heard alot of criticism on the sports boards recently about Rich Rod and what they heck is he doing signing WR, and RB and all these other positions when he needs Defensive players and Olineman. It reminds me some of our recruiting used to go. We dont need to go down that road again. But we used to recruit by availability it seemed rather than need. I feel we are recruiting by need right now. We have DL on OL as the top priority followed by LBs and that is the way it should be. However he is not going to ignore the QB, RB, WR, or DB spots just because we signed a good amount the last two years. I like the way our recruiting is going now regardless of star rating (even though I think we are getting highly rated players that will be rated even higher at the end of the year) he is still filling the needs and building depth in a smart way.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:41pm

  200. I come from a small community in Arkansas. A poor community that depended on everyone there to keep it from drying up and blowing away. I always made it a point to spend locally whenever possible to support the local economy.
    Now I work overseas and I still do a little here and there.
    The reason I am saying this is because Arkansas has some instate talent and they are looking on the other side of the fence.
    I believe these kids need to know there are more important things in life than looking for the best deal. We need a local hero to cheer for and call our own. Who here is not proud of Darren, Felix and Peyton ? I am ! and I love it when they are on TV just like 100% of all true hog fans do.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:41pm

  201. FYI I won the home edition of The Recruiting Blog. The piece that represents me is a big, inflated head.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:42pm

  202. Now thats funny !

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:46pm

  203. What some of the out of state recruits that are highly rated but are overlooked by their home school like felix was by OU can learn is that you become like an adopted son to the state of Arkansas. People will follow Felix and support him for as long as he plays football and as long as he lives. It does not matter if you were born in AR or out of state. When you come to AR you instantly are a Hero. Arkansas is a unique place where you are the main attraction. You dont have to deal with any other sporting teams or any other events. You are the Main Event. 24/7/365

    GO HOGS!

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:47pm

  204. And you have the best facilities and as much or greater support from the community and faculty than you will see at any other program in the nation.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:49pm

  205. Hey Guys that listen to the Buzz. Tell me have their been any good recruit interviews on the air lately?

    I am hoping Bennet or Barnett are getting closer to their decision. I am afraid they are going to be NSD holdouts though. They have so many offers I understand they may want to take their time.

    Any recent recruits that have been on there let me know how sound and what you think.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:51pm

  206. Blake, They usually dont have recruits on the air on Drivetime Sports. Bo mattingly does on occassion but I dont really care for Bo’s show.
    At 5:00 to 5:30 Trey Biddy is on the program. He gives all the recruiting updates. I like it ! Here’s the link if anyone is interested.

    http://www.1037thebuzz.com/show/4/drivetime-sports#

    Just click on “listen live”

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 2:58pm

  207. Don’t forget to listen to Richard on Recruiting Thursdays on The Shawn and Wally show.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:03pm

  208. Also, If anyone wants to listen to the Omaha Broadcast here is the link for that.

    http://www.1620thezone.com/

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:04pm

  209. Thanks !

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:05pm

  210. I will be watching the Omaha game tonight. You can count on that. I think I cussed my TV so much the other night that it cried.

    By blake on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:06pm

  211. I will be watching it here in Jordan as well.
    I was able to watch the Ark vs CSF game. But they did not show the Ark vs LSU game so I listened online. Tonight we are back “ON” again. :P

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:21pm

  212. Im torn. I’m supposed to spar tonight, but I really want to watch the game.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:28pm

  213. I’m glad I brought my boots! Maybe I should trade them in for some Hip Waders. :P

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:32pm

  214. You don’t believe me, Ron?

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:48pm

  215. Honestly, No I don’t because it falls right in line with all the other things you say here.

    I also find it hard to believe that such a self proclaimed “Hog Fan” wouldn’t watch them play when there is such a great opportunity to do so.

    By Ron in Jordan on Jun 17, 2009 @ 3:56pm

  216. I train at WestsideMMA. It’s on Jessie Rd off Cantrell Rd at the bottom of Cantrell hill. Tonight we do BJJ training and MMA training. Matt Hamilton, Roli Delgado are the owner/trainers. Roli recently fought on the UFC 99 pay-per-view in Cologne, Germany. Mike Wessel, the former UA strength and conditioning coach, trains there and is currently filming TUF 10 in Vegas. TUF is a reality series on Spike called The Ultimate Fighter. I’m not a professional fighter. I may never be one, but I love the sport of MMA and I love the martial art, BJJ. If you know anyone in Little Rock have them come by the gym. I’ll be happy to see them.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 4:04pm

  217. To many Hog fans there are more important things in life than the Hogs.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 4:09pm

  218. Not when their playing in the College World Series, or any other major game in the college sports world for that matter.
    True Hog fan huh?
    I boxed for years, but there was NEVER, EVER, any specific time that I can ever remember a sparing match coming before the Hogs in that type of a game. My focus would have been majorly damaged, so there was really no point.

    I think you just like to draw attention to yourself. (bragging that is, which just happens to be a major, major character flaw, to say the least)

    By GonzoHog on Jun 17, 2009 @ 6:25pm

  219. Are you not bragging on how awesome a hog fan you are? Hope you’re having a great day, Gonzo!!!!

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 6:34pm

  220. I don’t remember saying that, but if it works for your ever increasing appetite make make yourself look intelligent, knock yourself out.

    By GonzoHog on Jun 17, 2009 @ 7:01pm

  221. I don’t remember bragging either. Please point out where I’m bragging, Gonzo.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 7:09pm

  222. Gonzo, I’m glad your focus isn’t majorly damaged by posting on this blog during a critical game like this….

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 7:25pm

  223. Oh, sorry genius.
    I thought you were sparing, so I stopped writing to focus on the Hog game.
    It’s 2-0 UVA. How’s your sparing match going? Are you winning?

    By GonzoHog on Jun 17, 2009 @ 7:58pm

  224. I decided to watch the game, but thanks for showing interest in my life. That’s really nice of you. Now don’t get your focus majorly damaged responding to me, friend.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 8:04pm

  225. I can see the television from my PC, but thanks for showing interest in my life. That’s really nice of you.

    By GonzoHog on Jun 17, 2009 @ 8:12pm

  226. I try, Gonzo. I try.

    By MRPRFCT on Jun 17, 2009 @ 8:15pm

  227. Hey Richard,
    Since it is becoming more apparent with evey interview that Dyer and Mosley will be committing to Auburn in the next few month’s, what other running backs that we have offered will become a priority? Also, do you think our staff just assumed that Dyer would be a Razorback and in turn the Auburn staff has simply out worked them for his commitment?
    Thanks Richard,
    I appreciate all the info you give us weekly.

    By Giffy on Jun 17, 2009 @ 9:02pm

  228. WOW! What a great game last night! GoHogsGO!

    By WPSGHG on Jun 18, 2009 @ 7:12am

  229. Richard,
    Does it look like Arkansas may offer Dakota Mosley anytime soon?

    Thanks

    By Giffy on Jun 19, 2009 @ 8:13pm

  230. This is the biggest bunch of *aren’t we full of ourselves* BULLSHIRT I have ever read. MRP you are the most immature, egotistical bag of wind I believe I have ever encountered. How’s ’bout you just take a shut-up for a while??

    By Gary on Jun 20, 2009 @ 12:34am

  231. 224 posts in this thread and 199 of them are *I win* and *NO you don’t* Sheeesh!

    By Gary on Jun 20, 2009 @ 12:35am

  232. I heard that Michael Dyer told a Notre Dame reporter that he is no longer considering Arkansas. What do you all think about that? (Arkansas fans only please!)

    By Benedict on Jun 23, 2009 @ 5:38pm

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